Radical Marxist Kyrsten Sinema is upset with HB 2770. She claims that it is a “Nanny State” bill. The statement is laughable coming from her. Her Goldwater rating for 2009 was a D-, a slight improvement of her usual F rating.
In 2007 she introduced a bill to turn honest citizens into domestic terrorists for the simple act of carrying a firearm. In 2005 she received the Vladimir I. Lenin Award from the Arizona Federation of Taxpayers. Quite simply, she IS the nanny state.
HB 2770 is quite simple. If a person is so poor that the taxpayers are paying for his/her food or health care then that person should not spend their cash on items like alcohol or cigarettes. If they have enough money for booze and smokes then they should pay for their own food and not expect the taxpayers to pony up.
This illustrates the problem with liberals like Sinema. They want to give away taxpayer dollars with absolutely no strings attached. We have clearly seen since the start of the War on Poverty in the ’60s that approach does not work out well for the taxpayer or the person who receives the aide. Hard working taxpayers have every right to expect that help goes to only the truly destitute and not people with enough extra cash for cell phones, premium cable, and liquor.





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As much as this bill makes sense it is without a doubt unconstitutional. We should not be regulating what people buy and turn honest citizens into snitches that turn there neighbors in for buying smokes. Im suprised that someone who markets themselves as a conservative with a small government mentality would want to regulated what people purchase. Maybe since obesity is such a problem we should turn people in for buying Ramen because its full of hydrogenated oils. Another good example of the GOP trying to expand government
Lupin is totally wrong. There is nothing in the Constitutions of the U.S. or Arizona that guarantees cigarettes, booze or HBO. The feature of HB 2770 (sponsored by Antenori to eliminate wasteful welfare spending) pertaining to smoking can be enforced legally and constitutionally right now in Arizona and must be matched in Congress with an amendment to the Food and Nutrition Act.
Enforcement by the state of Arizona will be accomplished without informants or the cost of any new bureaucracy or red tape by a “yes” or “no” answer to the new question “Do you smoke?” on this form already in use:
“Arizona Department of Economic Security Application for
AHCCCS Health Insurance, SNAP Food Stamp Benefits, and General Assistance”
Anyone giving a false answer will, as they do now, receive the following penalties:
“If you, your representative or any household member knowingly withholds information or gives false information with the intent to get or continue to get Food Stamps SNAP, AHCCCS Health Insurance or General Assistance benefits, that person will be subject to criminal prosecution, fines, imprisonment or other penalties provided for by state and federal laws.
If you get SNAP Food Stamp benefits, or AHCCCS Health Insurance, you must follow the rules for telling us about changes, and the rules below:
* Do not make false statements or hide information. This is an Intentional Program Violation (IPV). If you are not truthful, the Department can take back money overpaid to you, and you may be taken to court.
* Do not do anything dishonest to get SNAP Food Stamp or AHCCCS Health Insurance benefits that you are not supposed to get.
* Do not give or sell your AHCCCS ID card to anyone.
* Do not alter or use someone else’s EBT card for your household.
* Do not use your Food Stamp benefits to buy non-food items such as ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO.
* If you knowingly hold back or give false information so you can receive or continue receiving AHCCCS Health Insurance, or if something you tell us on this application is incorrect, we may deny or stop AHCCCS Health Insurance. If you and/or your representative knowingly provide false information, you and/or your representative will be subject to criminal prosecution, which could result in fines, imprisonment and/or other penalties under state or federal laws. You may also be required to pay AHCCCS for AHCCCS Health Insurance you received while you were not eligible.
* If you knowingly break the rules and get SNAP Food Stamp benefits, you will be disqualified from receiving SNAP Food Stamp benefits for:
* 12 months for the first violation
* 24 months for the second violation
* Permanently for the third or any other violations
* The following additional penalties apply to the Food Stamp Program:
* An additional disqualification, of up to 18 months, may be ordered by a court.
* Any participant or family member who commits an Intentional Program Violation (IPV) can be fined up to $250,000.00, imprisoned up to 20 years, or both.
* An individual may be subject to further prosecution under federal laws.”
In addition, anyone using AHCCCS for medical services which include drawing blood will also be required to have the same blood sample tested for nicotine metabolites (little or no extra expense) and those who test positive will receive the penalties listed above.
Notice that purchase of ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO with food stamps is already prohibited. The current state and federal budget deficits are so severe and intractable that it is now imperative to tighten eligibility rules by ending SNAP payments to smokers. Enforcement must be sustained and vigorous.
Also, Congress must amend the Food and Nutrition Act (FNA) to end Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly food stamps) benefits for smokers.
Taxpayers are simultaneously subsidizing the living expenses and supporting the addiction of people who are practically burning money in the form of tobacco. Anyone who has money to spend on smoking neither needs nor deserves tax dollars for free food. The governor of Arizona already sent a state official to the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture and Dept. of Health and Human Services in Washington DC to prohibit purchase of soda, candy bars, etc. with food stamps. The logic is impeccable and compelling: Food stamps are for nutrition not junk food, so if cigarette smokers have money for their nicotine addiction then they don’t need food stamps.
Instead of crippling essential services such as public safety, instead of depriving children of decent K-12 education, we must now stop indulging selfish and extravagant welfare recipients who smoke. If anyone asks, the same goes for alcohol as tobacco but not pensions, Social Security, Medicare and unemployment benefits because those recipients earned those benefits by being employed.
These are efficient, fair, unbiased and humane ways to make domestic budget cuts, ones that still recognize and aid the truly needy, but these legislative changes are not anti-smoker, rather they are anti-waste.
They are by no stretch fascist or totalitarian but they are paternalistic, and justifiably so. People who are unwilling or unable to feed themselves must accept the government control that inevitably and necessarily accompanies government aid they receive. Those on the public dole are in no position to take the posture of libertarians.
Thanks for the interesting links – that “ability to smell and taste improves” after 48 hours is definitely noticeable and one we agree with – mmm, coffee is just divine these days, as are sweets and chocolate and pizza and, well, just everything – and, yes, from 48 hours after changing from normal cigarettes to electronic cigarettes.
thanks for that